Wow dude. Only one thing to do in this situation. We have an exciting and active sex life. Be open with her. Then, when I was in the bathroom (just outside of their bedroom door), I could hear them talking about me. Secondly, words mean nothing without action to back it up. He claims it was just he was not mature and never meant any of the terrible things he did. Personal details should remain private. Very few people know so I was instantly fucking pissed because if they knew, its cause my wife told them. Because I think going three-for-three on instances of convenient bullshit is, well, bullshit. One of the guys who was there called me and I answered. She said she thought about him and thinks they were young and made stupid mistakes. She tells my wife that Tom is still handsome as ever (this doesnt bother me, I feel im just as good looking) and they all give a little chuckle before my wife says something that floored me.Tom had reached out to her right before we got married and wanted her to get back together with him. I would take a long look to see if this is reconcilable. Just the circles I run in a guess. Those so called friends are not real friends. At a minimum she should have come clean about the bachelorette party thing the moment it happened. I think it wouldve been different if maybe she had some concerns and needed someone to confide in about it, but she shouldve never allowed them to speak about you that way. i would like to add a partner should never ever make you feel ashamed or embarrassed about your sexuality. Thats not the kind of person you stay with. But she's obviously done it before - all her friends knew it was okay to discuss and laugh about while she joked about letting him do "gay" stuff while she fantasies about other men. Same. You might want to discuss that during counselling, or maybe with a therapist. My step-dad said, "I feel like I always have to watch what I have to say, and I shouldn't have to worry about . That's just me, though. When she closes her eyes shes thinking of other men, one of those other men is probably Tom. People won't forget about it. I couldn't stop laughing at the first sentence in your comment. It's going to suck, but it's always worth it to try and move on. Then throw in this scenario that she was bisexual and the "boys" called her a "butch lesbian who doesn't really like dick.". Ok. Ive never felt this upset. Be happy anyway. Period.. Tell her that not another drop of alcohol is going to pass her lips from now on, it obviously addles her common sense. It takes a bigger person to take the high road, and most people are not. This is a recipe that you can utilize to get through a tough circumstance or even a bad day. Gaslight, blameshifting, shamming, begging by the end and finally divorce. This was really jarring. They were talking about ex-boyfriends and how another mutual friend of them cheated on her husband with an ex-boyfriend because he was better in bed. She said two of her friends are judgmental and believe youre either gay or straight and since I enjoy men (only sexually, not romantically) I must be gay. I don't think she is disinterested in the guy, but I will say I don't tolerate that kind of weakness. Exposing your sexuality and your sex life to her friends is a massive betrayal, but it has been covered by other quality comments. I agree with this comment as a bi person! They'll only hear "he likes sex with men. Firstly: Even though it may be difficult: try and see this as an opportunity to strengthen your relationship. It was a low blow, but fuck that shit. That sucks that your wife has such closed minded friends. And regarding the "I let it slip while drunk" part, she's still responsible for her acts while drunk, and if she isn't she shouldn't be drinking. You are both going to be have to go to couples therapy and individual therapy sessions. All of us are who we are meant to be, at this particular time in our life. You both need support and work towards creating a space where you both can be more honest with one another. Your anger is justified, but breaking up your wonderful family over this is too much and a shame? Couples counseling could help. My identity was something I held tight to my chest for years. "I overheard my wife talking to one of her best friends on the phone while I was passing the bedroom. You two will need some couples counselling after this incident, and some of what you will do in the future will be decided by if you can overcome a natural feeling of anger and resentment that you feel. I'm not sure how to help you, but your wife needs better friends. Possibly she has to talk to the friends and say that she loves her man, and she loves his kinks, and that she was only saying that stuff to gossip. You're not overreacting at all. The friends that she's now claiming are judgemental need to be cut off. How? Im sorry about your situation; not sure what I would do. All I can tell you is that it will all pass in good time, and you deserve better, and if she cant be better it ought to be from someone else. Cuz while I get what youre saying, what OPs wife said was beyond just a little oopsie. It was over something dumb, but she's fucking nuts and didn't want me to date anybody. I might not go as far as to say shes only sorry she got caught, but the current reaction is definitely because she got caught. NOBODY SHOULD TALK LIKE THAT ABOUT ANYONE. If you are honest, people may cheat you. If you do want to try to stay with her then, at minimum, you need to insist on marriage counseling immediately and you also need to insist that she completely cut the two homophobic/judgmental friends out of her life. I hope you can work it out. Women talk shit to each other just as much as men do. Your wife is all kinds of an AH here. Everyone doesnt wAnt an asshole who Best of luck man. By bringing it up then and making your feelings the most important feelings in the room, you are being childish. Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy. She may actually not understand your bisexuality because its been something she said shes fine with but never actually confronted. She sounds sorry and your marriage is great, so maybe dont listen too carefully to all the people telling you to get a divorce. Notice how she doubled down instead of being ashamed or saying that's not a subject for discussion? Theres people that will truly respect you and love you the right way. My husband is also bi, and I would never mock his sexuality like that. You have an issue, address it. Sending you my best OP. How horrible she is, violating you, your sex life, envisioning other people. Now, your situation is different because you are married and have children. I used to drink to black out, and not one time did I let slip the secrets I held for my friends and family. Which means wherever you gothere will be a little voice in the back of your mind wondering if people are judging you or talking shit about you behind your back, I'm not sure how you move forward in this situation but I would suggest individual therapy and couples counseling.as well as asking her to put some distance between her and the people she ran her mouth to, I would suggest individual therapy and couples counseling.as well as asking her to put some distance between her and the people she ran her mouth to. That is a childish excuse, to blame alcohol for being a terrible friend and partner. That's something only he would and has already been judged for. I also really dont like how shes the one who initiates/etc yet was making fun of it?? That is a messy situation. This is probably something couples therapy can help you navigate. Solve thid situation by TALKING let her explain herself and then tell her what you feel. I dated a man who tried to beat the bisexuality out of me because the few girl friends I had were "my type." She and her boyfriend did it regularly. You don't have to let it go. I am a closeted bi woman. When we had problems of a sexual nature it made me feel worse that her friends who would constantly gossip amongst each other knew. Ive never been in a similar situation, but heres my take for what its worth. I think that sometimes both men and women have a form of locker room talk with their friends about topics that maybe they arent entirely truthful about with their friends in order to make them feel better. I'm sorry. Did she give me advice? Wife: babe were you in the kit. I cut her off. How disgusting can she be? You poor man, I so want to give you a hug. I think it's too late for couples counseling. 1. EVERYTHING she did was awful and she clearly knew that she messed up (more than once). I would suggest that you avoid any hasty decisions that would blow your life up until you take some time to process this on your timeline. And also, alcohol intake needs to be curtailed. You need to learn how to deal with being outed and your stupid wife needs to understand the true ramifications for you. I thanked him. But one thing I have realized is that you should be proud of who you are as a person, sexual preferences included. I told her if she kept talking shit about him, I'd stop talking to her. . Are all your future conversations and issues also going to be relayed through said friends? And can think clearly. She swears she does love our sex life and the things we do and is sorry. Is she going to put them as well and claim she didnt mean it and that she was just drunk or gossiping? Its unsettling that she would remain friends with people who dared to judge her in that way, and that she even tries to gain their approval by talking trash about the beautiful sex you two get to have together. I'd be very hesitant about taking her words at face value. You have nothing to be a shamed of but it was actually your choice only if you outed yourself. If I were OP, the answer to this would play a big part in how/whether I wanted to proceed in the relationship. Your story is isn't as violent, but its just as embarrassing and horrifying to hear. Itll be hurtful to both of you for a long time and you probably both need therapy but if you truly do love each other, itll be worth it. She's probably just as judgemental as them because people surround themselves with people like themselves. I'm sorry you're going through this but your wife is such a shit person man. I can't stress enough how important it was that you didn't let this fester and at the same time you removed yourself from the situation to give yourself time to sort out your feelings. A marriage counselor should probably be your first step. But there are definitely lines, and she crossed a big one. This. I doubt your own friends would even care, they might tease you a little but thats what friends do. The guys and I were in the garage smoking and throwing back some beers just bullshitting about this and that. There's a lot that isn't adding up about her explanation to you. Yes, I do think you need to talk to her about it - it's not something that's going to go away. So she's been hiding this for a couple years instead of letting him in on all the jokes behind his back. Uh huh. There is nothing wrong with you. You definitely have every right to be upset and angry, but I honestly feel like she is telling you the truth, and they were just unfortunately things you werent supposed to hear. Itd be a dealbreaker for me. Accept yourself, just try to improve. Reading this brought me back to heavy hearted times. Do you actually believe that she didn't have any agency? Decide what you need to keep the relation ship going. Frankly I would be more able to forgive infidelity than I would these kind of conversations. Great comment. If my friends talked about my SO like that I would be livid and we wouldnt be friends anymore. German Husband let Young Boy Fuck his Wife in Threesome 14:30. I heard their conversation. Don't make any decisions until you have calmed down. That's why her apology doesn't feel like it's enough - because it isn't. Juatt know that that is okay and it can take as long as it takes. So (and this is where your perception of the relationship comes in) you have to determine whether she was going with the flow of the conversation or whether she does actually have an issue with that. Personally, I would consider this along the same lines of cheating in my relationship, because it's a complete breach of trust and security you're supposed to have with your partner. Id almost go with divorce but with the kids, I sincerely hope counseling is able to help. Its fucked up to add that to a conversation just to pile on and humiliate her own husband. The real question on my mind is why is she friends with people who belittle you for your sexuality? i love him but he doesn't excite me the way Tom did. I got halfway through before searching "fake" in the comments. Take a few more days. People knowing that hes bi will damage his reputation? Your wife needs some new friends. Like who knows what other shitty conversations she participated in, especially since this isn't the first time they've expressed this kind of thinking. Dude, yeah. I've been married for 21+ years. Even if it is a stay vacation somewhere near your home. Me: girls, get your better halves and get the fuck out of my house They all pop right up and walk past me. Sending you strength. I suggest an open minded conversation. But it needs to be on your terms. Seems to me that because of her indifference to your feelings, she needs to get rid of those friends because she emasculated you in front of them. OP-the one man who reached out to you, I feel he is a solid individual and have to give You major points to talking with him. First let me say your SO is the fucking worst in my humble opinion. Acknowledge what you are going through sucks, don't judge it, & tell yourself the following: this is temporary. Partners that demand that have no respect for you. Hold on tight and never give up! I got in my car and drove to my moms house. Just shows she has no loyalty. Second, if you know somebody is making fun of you over something so intimate and personal, how can you enjoy it again? Fourthly, buy that man a beer. Also, she may have "let it slip" 2 years ago, but obviously they've all talked about it since. Embarrassed..then it turned to rage. ( like nothing wrong with it but the fact ur so scretive about it speaks volumes, SHAME is an individual thing. Forgive them anyway. It was lovely that the mate called you and said what he did. Do good anyway. Dude, I am so sorry. This seems to be an unpopular opinion, but I kind of agree with you. But we hung on. Oh come.A- at least. When you have a PARTNER that partner should be in your corner 100% of the time. So my wife and one of her girlfriends were having a few glasses of wine, and while I was in my office I overheard a very awkward part of their conversation The other woman was complaining about her husband, quite openly, and specifically about the size of his penis. I'm getting angry just sitting here cause I've personally witnessed this so many times. That means she's been laughing about their sex life for a couple years, after outing him and then hiding it from him. she outed you, made cruel jokes about your guys sex life, and didnt shut down her friends for being homophobic/biphobic. Sorry you're going through this. My guess is that she was only sorry he caught her and she's been crying because she's about to become a divorced mom. It's not a secret, kept in a fault. As far as your confidence goes, why has that taken a hit? As a not entirely straight guy myself I would be pretty mortified to go through this. This right here. Shes the one the initiates that kind of sex (pegging, butt play, d/s stuff.none of which is exclusive to bi men btw) most the time! Both were pretty against it and kind of gave me a hard time about trying it with my husband and even liking it. Your wife shouldnt have outed you to her friends. Come on, you're not 19 anymore. Agreed! Dont let your wifes shitty behavior ruin your confidence and self worth. I'm wondering if your lack of fighting in your communication may be related to her not being open and honest with you as you are with her. I am so sorry. you'd be shocked but how many wives/girlfriends go into detail about their sex lives with their friends. You have a couple of children and a good life up until now. For the record, any intelligent person knows that there is no straight/gay/bi sex acts. She should immediately be defending you if they're bigots and jerks about your sexuality. So much this. She has taken away your ability to feel safe being vulnerable and honest with her. Therapy is what you need. this sounds like a case of she only sorry she got caught. The thing that's most revolting is that she'd hang you out to dry just to agree with her mates. But then she says.the only hurdle I had to get past with (me) was.well, you guys know.they all were kinda like mhmm as if to affirm they knew what she was talking about. Couples counselling may help as well. Your wife was actively talking shit about you behind your back when she thought you werent listening. You know what Im talking about Im sure. Reading it, it definitely felt like she was saying stuff to fit in with judgy friends. So what you should do? Very much agree with this person right here. To her, you're the butt of the joke. I can give you the exact number of people's secrets I have revealed while drunk Is fucking zero. Fuck her if she cannot be your confidant she's worthless, tell her to get rid of her hateful friends. If you feel this can be fixed, try couples counseling, but honestly I only see this ending one way. We never fight. Being a bi women in a straight committed relationship, I can connect with you in some sense because I do hear "you can't be bi, you're married to a man" or I had previous partners that were horribly insecure about my sexuality. No partner with a shred of empathy or decency would value the opinions of their friends over their partner's wellbeing. It takes a lot of trust and vulnerability to explore kinks with somebody. Get your better halves and get the fuck out of my house as I tipped my fedora and winked at my wifes hottest friend who was clearly impressed by my rage erection that had partially split the seam in my relaxed fit Levi 501s. I'd be worried what she would do if one or both of their kids are bi or gay. If she had doubled down and defended herself and her friends, then that would be a break up situation imo. Oh theyre judgmental so I wanted to fit in why do you wanna fit in with these people who dont respect the person you love most? 3) Gossiping about your private life and using it as entertainment for her friends is a huge betrayal. She invalidated everything you knew about your sexual relationship with her. Shows you don't accept their judgemental BS. That would be the end for me. Divorce is an option if you cant get past this but it deserves an effort. You need to accept yourself for who you are. I turned to my wife with a raised eyebrow and announced I guess you didnt have me pegged to be a man that would stand up for himself! And I majestically brushed my cape back and walked right out of the house. She sounded way too comfortable with what she was saying (based on OP's description. Just talk. If she cant trust herself to keep her mouth shut around her friends when drunk, then she shouldnt drink around her friends. Thats the shittiest advice you could give someone. I'm sorry you went through this. This issue has been going on and at each turn, she chose not to be honest with you. Do not just shrug it off if you stay. When the "friends" make their snide comments, she should be backing you up, not joining in. However you talk shit no doubt with your friends you would probably never want her to hearbwe can all be thoughtless assholes from time to time She chose you I'm not saying you overreacted must off been devastating to hear but it sounds like overall you guys have a good and loving relationship unless you are truly broken by this you need to talk and work out where you are now and whether this is repairable or not situation. The only thing I can think is that she didnt want you to worry or feel badly about itbut its an important thing I would want mentioned to me (an ex sniffing around and trying to get back together with my boyfriend). How unattractive I feel. OP, Ive never been in your shoes but I can empathize with flat out betrayal. Also, your wife needs to drop her biphobic friends who are being a negative influence on her and you by proxy. I can also understand how this could be a blow to your confidence. Good luck, brother. Can you trust a person like that after all this? Suggest you stay away for a bit and do some thinking about what you want and whether its possible for her to mend this damage and that you can accept her behavior and forgive her. If you can't trust someone with your sexuality - you aren't going to trust them with anything else that matters to you, there will always be something keeping you from sharing your full self with them. I am not open about my sexuality. Wasnt even going to bring it up to her or get upset she didnt tell me. I'll be dammed if a single one of my friends said anything like that about my man. As long as they're not being super stupid, 100% in public and then you tell them off in private. People aren't accepting where I live either. BigbigbigBIIIIG yikes. She's just shown you that you can't trust her with your sexuality. Thats her game, and I suggest therapy and also congratulate you, my dude, on taking it so calmly. You can be pissed and hurt and angry for now and work on it. My suggestion? Its just so cowardly and shows she's not on your team. You have to try and think past this and think about her and the relationship as a whole. Therefore I would talk to her about her views on it and, if necessary, go to couples therapy on this. She's probably embarrassed by that, and won't admit it to her friends fearing judgement. Your wife hates that you're bi. Dude, she needs to recognize that her violation of your trust is incredibly bad. It won't repair the damage that's been done. Then she said he has a really cute small dick, but tries to please. She has been entertaining this for two years because she can't control her mouth when she's drinking. If youre ever going to get past this, you should both be in therapy. She didn't have your back and she put friendship with assholes over her partner in life. I don't know where you should go from here. Not such perfect marriage after all. She was shitfaced when she admitted your sexuality, was pressured to mock your sexuality by her terrible friends, and she didn't actually mean to completely fucking demean you sexually. I live in a fairly large Canadian metropolitan area, most guys I know and hang out with are even a little bi. Whether or not its just because she got caught, I dont know. And her dissing your sexual needs to her friends and I truly understand that it was very hurtful and disrespectful to you and your marriage. We have 2 amazing kids. I even heard her shoosh the friend who said it and peek inside the kitchen but I hid behind the counter and kept listening. Dont slide back to her. Highlight the fact that obviously the buck didn't stop with her friends as at least one of their husbands know. I could hear what they were saying and I heard one of her friends mention Tom. Created by your wife. How I interpret she feels: she let slip in a drunken night that youre bi, she enjoys your sex life and when her friends made you the butt of the joke and were being judgmental about it, she felt ashamed, and in true weak fashion chose to join in vs stand up for you and herself. Id be worried he was sleeping with his friends and Id be scared of what he asked me to do in the bedroom they all giggled.i was FLOORED. It actually did make me feel a little better. 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